Patent royalty demands from Samsung unfair says Apple

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Apple Inc. has said that Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. made demands for a much higher patent royalty from Apple than what the maker of the iPhone pays to the other companies. The South Korea based company has sought for a rate that it had never sought before from any of its other licensee.

The Report:

According to a freshly released legal brief in an US court on Wednesday, Apple has provided details about the negotiating position of each side in the run up to a high stakes trial that is supposed to begin the next week. In a different filing, Samsung on the other hand has contended the fact that their royalty demands are in accordance to the demands of the industry. In San Jose US magistrate ruled on Wednesday that Samsung had wrongly allowed its employees to delete emails that could possibly have helped Apple in pursuing the 2.53 billion dollars lawsuit over its disputed patents. According to the opinion of the magistrate, Judge Paul Grewal, the jury might hold this matter against the South Korea based company. In their statement Samsung stated that they are intending to appeal the decision made by Judge Grewal to the trial judge and also to the Court of Appeals if necessary. Samsung has also promised to comply with any kinds of information requests made from the court.

Legal War between Apple and Samsung:

The largest consumer electronics corporations of the world, Samsung and Apple, have waged legal war around the world accusing one another for violations of patents as they fight for a superior position in the fast growing market of mobile devices. One of the major issues that has spurred dispute between the two companies is the proper valuation of the standard essential patents of Samsung. These are the patents that Samsung has agreed to license to its competitors on grounds of reasonable and fair terms. This can be done in exchange for adopting the technology as a standard in the industry. Some judges are however reluctant to issue injunctions on these patents. Samsung has made a demand of 2.4% rate on the total selling price of the mobile products from Apple as stated in a court filing.

The standpoint of both the companies:

According to the statements made from Apple, the royalty demands from Samsung are multiple times more than what it has ever paid to any other patentees for having licenses to their declared essential patent portfolios. In their legal filings Apple has not actually disclosed the rates that they pay to the other companies for the standard essential patents. Samsung however in a separate filing stated on Wednesday that their rates are consistent with the rates of the other companies. They also added that Apple had never made a counter offer on this regard. Samsung has also added in their filing that Apple had simply rejected the offer made by Samsung and refused to go into any further negotiations on this matter. Apple has not even paid a dime to Samsung till date for the use the standards essential technology from Samsung.

Aubrey Chang
Aubrey Chang, Associate Editor Industry Leaders Magazine (
  1. Geld Schnell says:

    I wish I’d said it first, and I don’t even know who did: The only problems that money can solve are money problems. ~Mignon McLaughlin, The Second Neurotic’s Notebook, 1966

  2. Jack loach says:

    Update .Sept.11th. – 2011.

    The following sent to —-312 Lords.——- House of Lords.( inc. Lord Myners.)
    The following sent to —-649.M.P’s——–House of Commons.

    Aug 4th. 2011— Full story plus all documentation sent to
    640.M.P’s ——- House of Commons.
    460. Lords.——-House Of Lords.


    Pictet & Cie Bank.

    Ivan Pictet.
    Nicolas Pictet.
    Charles Pictet.
    Jacques de Saussure.
    Jean – Francois Demole.
    Renaud de Planta.
    Philippe Bertherat..

    Pictet & Cie.- claim they are the “Rolls Royce”of Swiss banks.

    Swiss Banks or more correctly Swizz banks.

    Swizz. —- “ a great disappointment.” or a “ fraud.”

    Fraud. —“ an intentional deception or dishonesty.”— “a crime.”

    Crime. —“ an act committed or omitted in violation of a law.”

    Serious Crimes .
    Conspiring to pervert the Course of Justice.
    Perverting the Course of Justice.
    Contempt of Court.

    Pictet & Cie Bank –Partners –(1996—2011 )- guilty.
    Peters &Peters – Partners.— (1999—2011 )- guilty.

    The bank and it’s officials/lawyers deliberately withheld crucial documents requested under a High Court order. The bank and it’s officials/lawyers deliberately withheld evidence from the Police, and one of it’s account managers Susan Broadhead gave a false witness statement .
    Another one of it’s managers Nicholas Campiche ( Now Head of Pictet – Alternative Investments.) concocted a letter pretending to be a client and closed his account. The senior partner (Ivan Pictet.) sought to have numerous documents destroyed,along with those copies held in their London office’s of Pictet Asset Management. Initially stating that they were forgeries then their lawyers Peters & Peters – Monty Raphael .Q.C.–and the barrister Charles Flint.Q.C. later had to admit in Court that the documents were genuine.

    British Parliament. Hansard .29th March 2007.
    Barry Sheerman .M.P.—quote.

    ———“ Constituents of mine have lost £2 million through fraud. The fraudster used Pictet & Cie – – a French Bank – – and Pictet Asset Management to back the fraud being perpetrated.””

    (1) It is a criminal offence for a bank to knowingly act for an undischarged criminal bankrupt in so far as it seeks to assist that criminal bankrupt in the fraudulent movement of monies. ( Money Laundering.)

    (2) It is a criminal offence for a bank to lie to the police and the bankrupts trustee in bankruptcy in so far as any knowledge of, or dealings with the bank was refuted .

    (3) A bank can be guilty of Contempt of Court if it fails to comply fully with the Courts order for discovery .

    (4) The banks contempt is further compounded if it fails to address its error after it is specifically drawn to the to its solicitors attention. ( Monty Raphael).

    (5) It is a criminal offence under the Financial Services Act to seek to destroy evidence that might be relevant to an investigation .

    (6) It is a criminal offence not to relinquish control of funds to the Trustee immediately the fact of the bankruptcy is drawn to the banks attention.

    (7) It is a criminal offence to lie or otherwise obfuscate the lawful and proper enquiries of the F.S.A.

    In the F.S.A. cover up , they concluded that there had been “ Rogue” elements in Pictet & Cie’s , London operations . They had been moved from their London Office so who was there left to prosecute. “ Unbelievable.”

    On Dec 9th,2008. the complaint was sent to 150 Members of the House Of Lords and 230 Members of Parliament.

    *** We thank –David Cameron. M.P. ( Canary Wharf Speech.) Dec. 15th. 2008.
    *** –Now —- The Prime Minister.

    (1) Bankers who behave irresponsibly should face professional consequences.
    (2) If anyone is found to have behaved criminally they must be prosecuted.
    (3) The F.S.A and the Serious Fraud Office should be following up every lead, and
    investigating every suspect transaction .
    (4) We need to make it 100% clear –those who break the law should face prosecution.
    (5) That we make sure we root out any wrongdoing that may have happened, whoever is
    involved, however high or well connected they may be.

    The ‘Doyens’ of the establishment.’ ( Ivan Pictet and Monty Raphael.)

    Ivan Pictet.
    Managing partner in Pictet & Cie Bank . — retiring -. 2010.?
    President of the Geneva Financial Centre. – stepping down. 2010.?
    World Bank.committee member.
    United Nations. Investment Committee member,
    Vice President – Global Humanitarian Forum. — redundant.2010.?
    Member of the Henokiens.
    Blackstone Group — Board Member.
    Past- President – Geneva Private Bankers association.
    Past –President – Geneva Chamber of Commerce and Industry.

    Monty Raphael.Q.C. ( Peters & Peters.)
    Quote.” —- Doyen of U.K. Fraud lawyers.
    Head of Fraud and Regulatory Dept. — stepping down.?.
    Member of the Law Society of England & Wales.
    International Bar Association Member.
    Director of Fraud Advisory Panel.

    Written Parliamentary Questions received by the table office ..

    (1) To ask the secretary of state what steps he is taking to ensure that Swiss Banks such as Pictet & Cie do not evade criminal prosecution under EU law even when the illegal act is committed by a London based subsidiary.

    (2)To ask the secretary of state what steps he is taking to protect the rights of UK citizens who seek redress following criminal activities by Swiss banks with subsidiary offices located in London.

    On Dec 9th,2008. the complaint was sent to 150 Members of the House Of Lords and 230 Members of Parliament.
    On Aug 19th.2009.another complainants file regarding the “cover up” was forwarded to the same 380 members.

    We started our campaign in June 2008 — via the “net” to highlight our fight to get “justice”. In our second year campaign we hoped to reveal further damning evidence . Due to there being an on going Police investigation into our complaint we are at this moment unable to place dozens of documents on to the “net”. Again we thank other “ E- Mailers” for their information in relation to our campaign.

    Quote. ( America’s Top Lawyer .)

    You can be the richest man in the world with the best lawyers that money can buy but you cannot win against a man who has got nothing left to lose and is telling the truth.
    Truth Hurts.

    • Ivan Pictet. Announces stepping down from Pictet & Cie. 5th Feb 2010.
    June 2010 – stepping down as president. Geneva. Financial Centre.
    • Monty Raphael. Steps down as head .( Peters and Peters ) May. 2009.

    *** We note that there has been a sharp increase in Peters & Peters partners leaving to go to other practices. Moving does not alleviate them of any responsibility from any illegalities that may have occurred at Peters & Peters during their partnership tenure. From 1999 onwards.

    *** Were currently waiting to see if the West Yorkshire Police :-
    (1) Chief Constable —- Sir Norman Bettison.
    (2) Forces Solicitor —- Mike Percival.
    (3) Head of Economic Crimes Unit.— Det. Chief Inspector Steven Taylor.

    — continue to attempt to cover this case up like their F.S.A. Counterparts.
    If they do “ watch this space”)

    We have recently been informed that due to pressure from our M.P. that the Ministry of Justice had asked Lord Myners to investigate our claims that the F.S.A. covered up the illegal activities of Pictet Asset Management. London. They might as well have asked Ivan Pictet to investigate .or Friends Reunited.

    Lady Myners on Prix Pictet board.

    The consensus of opinion is the Pictet & Cie should be prosecuted , and that their banking licence’s should be taken away in the U.K. ( and fined.)
    Their solicitors at Peters & Peters — struck off and prosecuted..
    In America they would have all been in prison for the last seven years.


    We note that Det. Chief Inspector Steven Taylor has been removed as the Head of Economic Crime Unit and demoted to Det. Inspector. ( One down two to go).

    A file of some 339 pages including scores of documentation as been forwarded to the following from Aug.4th to Aug.6th. 2011.

    640 — Members of Parliament.
    460 — Members of the House of Lords.
    Ministry of Justice
    F.S.A — Financial Services Authority
    Serious Fraud Office.
    Peters & Peters. London. — Solicitors.
    Pictet & Cie. Bank —- London & Geneva.
    West Yorkshire Police Authority.
    I.P.C.C. – Independent Police Complaints Commission.
    C.C.R.C.—Criminal Cases Review Commission.
    Swiss Ambassador London.

    Our Campaign’s Third Year Anniversary .
    Started June 6 th 2008. ( almost 4 million E-Mail in three years.)
    Still no injunctions – – -no writs – – – ( they can’t go to Court – – – – it’s all true.)

    *** the Bigger they are – – – – the harder they fall.!!!

    In America – – they would have all been in prison for the last seven years.

    Full Story.

    Go on “Google”

    1. Insert.— Charles Pictet. Banker.
    2. Insert.— Ivan Pictet. Banker.
    3. Insert.—Nicholas Pictet. Banker.
    4. Insert.—Jacques de Saussure. Banker.
    5. Insert.—Renaud De Planta. Banker.
    6. Insert.—Jean-Francoise Demole. Banker.
    7. Inser.— Philippe Bertherat. Banker.

    Or insert any of the following combinations.

    1. Insert.—( Jacques de Saussure/ Monty Raphael)
    2. Insert—( Ivan Pictet / Monty Raphael).
    3. Insert—( Pictet& Cie/ Monty Raphael.)
    4. Insert—( Charles Flint/ Monty Raphael)
    5. Insert—( Nicholas Campiche/ Susan Broadhead). .
    6. Insert.—( F.S.A./ Monty Raphael.)
    7. Insert – ( F.S.A./ Pictet & Cie.)
    8. Insert.—( Hansard/Ivan Pictet.)
    9. Insert. – ( Lord Myners / Pictet & Cie..)
    10. Insert – ( Sir Anthony Holland / Monty Raphael.)
    11. Insert – ( David Cameron / Monty Raphael.)
    12. Insert – ( Bernard Madoff / Pictet & Cie.)
    13. Insert – ( Sir Norman Bettison / Monty Raphael.)
    14. Insert – ( David Cameron / Pictet & Cie.)

    *** Latest News !.!.

    Bernard Madoff’s trustee suing Pictet & Cie. — $156 Million.
    Rogue Pictet & Cie advisors sold Madoff Funds.
    Pictet & Cie helped thousands of rich Americans hide monies offshore.

    Madoff got 150 years in jail —- surely the bank partners , their lawyers and “ advisors” should also get appropriate jail sentences.
    Aug.30th 2011— Pictet & Cie and its Partners being sued by Saudi Arabian Co for
    $350 Million —- Fraud and Money Laundering.

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